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From Out of the Mouths of Babes…

June 30, 2009 · 5 Comments

While getting some gas tonight, I was watching a couple women who appeared to be in their early 20’s.  They had a perfect little girl between them.  I’m going to guess that this little was maybe 3.

They got my attention by using the “N” word.  They said it the way it pops up in rap songs; the “r” at the end of the word wasn’t pronounced.  It seemed to refer to people in general, and not any one of a certain skin color.

It’s still an ugly word.  Particularly with a kid around.

And sure enough, this perfect little girl, in this almost cartoonish voice said, “Damn, how many stores  we gonna go to?”

I was disturbed by the fact that nobody even seemed to notice.  Damn, of course, is not the ugliest word in the english language.  But the child was of the age that she should be watching Barney say things like, “Super-dee-dooper.”

I spent some time contemplating this interaction, and mourning for the future.  This is not a place where I’ve got my head in the sand.  I work with behaviorally challenged adolescents.  I spend my work weeks surrounded by kids who need to be taught how to notice when they are dropping “F” bombs.

As I pumped my gas, I decided that one was a dead beat parent and the other was a sister or best friend.  I’d pretty much chalked them up to the type who never watches their kid at the playground, park, pool, or store.  I’d laid out this little 3 yr. old’s whole life before her.  This whole thing was generational.  This three year old girl would surely be pregnant before she was out of her own teens.

The first thing I realized when I started to think in this way was to recognize my own hypocrisy.  My eldest son was concieved out of wedlock.  It was wrong that we did this, but it is how things went down.  Who am I to project this on anybody else?

But more than all this, it occured to me that these words, they don’t mean the things they used to mean.  This is partially generational and partially cultural.  Generations and cultures can be wrong.  Perhaps they are.  There is a whole theological aspect to using words like “damn” lightly.

There is a question of whether it’s wise for people to run around flaunting the norms of society.  But that’s sort-of the point.  In the world these kids run in, expecting kids not to say “damn” is less and less of a norm.  Prior generations would have disaproved of women wearing pants, using the word, “cancer” in polite conversation, etc.

My point isn’t whether these ideas are right or wrong.  My point is that my opinions were probably as irrelevant to these people as the old-fashioned people above are irrelevant to me.

I don’t think that this means we ought to give up and decide that anything goes.

I think we ought to shift gears.  I think we ought to work at demonstrating to people what the prevailing culture’s expectations are (in those cases where they don’t know) and I think we ought to work at demonstrating to people that they actually have something to gain by following these expectations (in those cases when they know but don’t feel that it really matters.)

This could require changing more than perceptions.  To some extent, they might be right to feel disenfranchised from the system.  It might be accurate that they’ve got nothing to gain by folllowing along with expectations such as people– particularly kids– should steer clear of the word, “damn.”

As I was screwing the gas cap back on my car, the trio approached me.  They were looking for directions.  They were polite and respectful.

One interpretation of this fact is to suspect that that they new how to play the game.  When they wanted something from me (directions) they figured out how to follow my expectations.

The alternative interpretation is that the specific words we deem acceptable vary from one culture-generation to another, but the overarching idea that we ought to be respectfuland courterous to each other, this is a constant.

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  • Romanós // June 30, 2009 at 5:05 am | Reply

    Your observations about the meaning of words and expressions varying from culture to culture is correct. I have thought these same things myself. Tho I do not appreciate hearing some of the language that goes on around me, I have come to understand that it doesn’t have the same connotation to the people using it as it does to me the person overhearing it. And yes, rarely do people impose their idiom on me when interacting with me, but most try to speak in a way that will not offend. When the opposite happens, it can come from anyone of any generation or class. Mean-mindedness and an insulting, aggressive spirit are not limited to the people we don’t happen to like.

    On the other hand, I do believe that cultural relativism is just as false as any other kind. I do believe a culture is more advanced where people are taught to behave respectfully, speak purely and inoffensively, dress modestly, maintain personal cleanliness and the integrity of their bodies (no body “art” or unnatural use of mutilation), and follow communal rituals of order. That does not mean Western culture is better than others, but that there are real good and bad, constructive and destructive behaviors that form culture.

    It took us about 250 years to evolve from the barbarism of late agrarian, early industrial period Europe to what was reached in the decade just prior to the outbreak of WWI. It has taken us less than 100 years to devolve back to something even worse for mankind because it is disguised by technology.

    People don’t realise how good goodness is until it’s too late.

  • jeffsdeepthoughts // June 30, 2009 at 1:30 pm | Reply

    Thank you for your insight. You are quite correct. It certainly isn’t a class or even an age thing.
    You are also exactly right in terms of the idea that we can and should critique cultures that are disrespectful, inpure, offensive, immodest, and unclean. (To me, body art strikes me as a slightly more tricky case.)

    The thing I find challenging all this– and I think you’re on the same page with me– is that we don’t know what the content of peoples’ hearts is. Actions that would seem quite disrespectful, inpure, offensive, immodest to me may in fact not be intended to be so. And intention may not be everything, but it certainly should count for a lot.
    I think it’s easy to pick an arbitrary generation (say the 1950’s, for example) and say, “The buck stops here.” In terms of language, dress, social values, etc. On the one hand, a person has the right to choose this arbitrary date as the one whose social customs he’s going to support. But I don’t think we can expect others to latch on to our magical date as the one.
    Consider bathing suits: A 1950’s bathing suit is quite modest by todays standards. A stereotypical Christian Evangelical might be scandalized by others choosing to weak a bikini, as a stereotypical Christian Evangelical has choosen the 1950’s more’s as the “Golden Age”. An Amish person, however, would be quite shocked by the 1950’s bathing suit. The Amish chose a different date as the one which we ought to emulate.
    And someone else might believe that a bikini is o.k., but a g-string is highly inapprorpiate….

    I get it that there are absolute standards. I get it that we ought to value modesty. I get it that we can’t let the secular world dictate the norms. I further get it that we have an obligation not to be a stumbling block to others.
    But I’m less sure about how to make all this play out in a society where every one does not buy into my faith comitment. Even if the world was full of devoted Christians who agreed that modesty is a good idea, I expect that we would still have quite a lively debate about what counts as appropriate dress. The concept of modesty is a universal idea that ought to be fought for. But differences like individual temparments, locations’ climates, even the ammount a given culture has sexualized the human form will all be important determinants in precisely what the concept of modesty means, I think.
    Similiar debates and considerations hold themselves around questions of purety of speech, being inoffensives, etc.
    Any thoughts on how to work that all out?

  • Romanós // June 30, 2009 at 6:19 pm | Reply

    You wrote, “we don’t know what the content of peoples’ hearts is,” and for me, that forms a bottom line and puts a stop to all but purely individual speculation on or regulation of the externals of other people. In other words, we must reserve judgment to God. These are trifling matters anyway, compared to the single all-important dilemma of humanity, how to get right with a righteous God. We both know the answer to that one.

    We mustn’t even talk about these issues over which we have no control whatsoever. All we can do is help where we can, and pray for God’s mercy on what we can’t help.

  • outnumberedby5 // July 1, 2009 at 11:50 am | Reply

    Is what we’re doing here lamenting human nature? Not to further hackney a cliche but, it is what it is.

    Examining Christian culture and social ethics over the past…say…since the life of Jesus would suggest that people have forever been trying to externally reflect what they believe God wants to see. And i wouldn’t even limit that to Christians. It’s part of our condition to either appease God or our neighbor in the hope that we somehow impress or earn ourselves some favor. On some level that isn’t such a bad thing.

    But on the most important of levels – the one in which God resides and cares about – we are fantastically equipped to deceive. My mind is just racing with the possibilities and examples for conversation on this topic. The ministry of Jesus has this theme as a very strong undercurrent: he addresses this issue just about everywhere. Specifically, where he teaches about judging and the nature of sin and the content of the heart as opposed to the works of body we see this.

    Isn’t it just the neatest trick for us to try and figure this out in everyday life!?!

    As far as engineering a solution to the friction you describe, i believe Jesus would prefer that we concern ourselves less with building a perfect world and more with bridging the gap between our neighbors and God.

    Let Jesus do the heavy lifting.

  • jeffsdeepthoughts // July 3, 2009 at 12:24 pm | Reply

    “Let Jesus do the heavy lifting” That’s really good stuff.

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